============================================================== Guild: wafer.space Community Channel: ℹ️ - Information / general / Ideas for different size silicon area. After: 2025-07-31 11:59 p.m. Before: 2025-09-01 12:00 a.m. ============================================================== [2025-08-21 8:02 p.m.] mithro_ [2025-08-21 8:02 p.m.] mithro_ To be a little clearer; * (a) Eventually I hope that I can support any die size and use something like laser dicing. For now that is an added complexity / risk it doesn't make sense to take on (kinda like the gf180mcu process optimization idea that I abandoned). * (b) In the shorter term, given that you get back bare die by default, I believe there could be a few options for post processing to split them into even smaller units. [2025-08-21 8:04 p.m.] mithro_ At the moment it is $7 USD per die -- so if we could divide the die into 8 parts, that would make it under $1 per die. [2025-08-21 8:05 p.m.] mithro_ Given that 3 * BOM cost; * $7 USD per die really means a >$100 USD product. * $1 USD per die means that <$30 USD or even $10 USD type products become viable. [2025-08-21 8:05 p.m.] 246tnt Ok, I wasn't really sure that dicing "a second time" was something doable at all at scale ... [2025-08-21 8:07 p.m.] mithro_ @tnt - "scale" is a relative term, ~1,000 units it pretty small for PCBA and non-existant scale for semiconductor people. [2025-08-21 8:13 p.m.] mithro_ Actually, if it's $7 USD per die and you want $1 USD per sub-die, then you can spend ~$1 USD per die to do the dicing. [2025-08-21 8:16 p.m.] 246tnt By scale I meant, not 10 units done by hand. Because if you get the die in a gel pack like we dit from the skywater runs, I'm not sure how you put them in a laser dicing machine "in bulk" since the ones I've seen take full wafers ... [2025-08-21 8:18 p.m.] 246tnt But it's not like I have tons of experience with dicing so it's very possible there is a way 🤷 ============================================================== Exported 9 message(s) ==============================================================